Wednesday, November 17, 2004

Pull Up Your Pants!

I know this topic has been covered by numerous people - the best I've ever heard was Dennis Leary - but I'm really tired of seeing pants hanging around people's knees.

Now I live in an area that's shall we say - "a wee bit rough". Last week I came home to see over a dozen police cars, ETF vans and ambulances paying a visit to a resident in the building next to me. Apparently this upstanding member of the Crips gang had allowed a baby to be photographed holding a gun - this didn't go over well with the local photolab or the police who later viewed it.

My point is that many of the young folks in my area either belong to similar organizations or they want to look the part. This usually consists of wearing clothes eight sizes to big - with giant hooded sweatshirts and baggy pants worn around the knees (okay, it's actually the middle of their ass, but it sure looks like their knees).

For the actual gang members I guess I can understand this - it is their uniform and I suppose they need to dress the part. What I have a problem with is the posers - the wannabees. These kids think it's "phat" or "sick" to dress like this and it does nothing for them but lump them in with the real hoodlums.

Now much of their influence comes from the rap and hip-hop music scene. These artists (I call them that because I actually like the music) portray an image that promotes the "gangsta" culture - drugs and violence are glorified in their lyrics and videos. This is unfortunate because I feel that these very talented people could be using their outlet to promote positive values and role models to our youth, but instead choose to lead them down a path that dooms them to drugs, violence and despair.

I don't know if their is an answer, but I think a good start would be for someone to tell these kids to dress properly, walk proud and for god sakes pull up their damn pants! It's too bad we all live in the fear that such comments, directed to the wrong person, could very likely get us killed.

7 comments:

Xpinionated said...

A couple of points:

Hip Hop culture was not determined by gangs. Gangs in the early 90's when rap was labeled as 'gangsta' (something I have a problem with) music actually wore fairly tight jeans and regular clothes. Baggy clothes as a trend started in hip hop, not from gangs. In essence, gangs are dressing in a hip hop uniform.

Secondly, if parents are letting their kids be that influenced by a rapper, then there's something wrong with the parenting. I grew up listening to hip hop since the early 80's through the 90's on until today. I also knew that it was only music much like I knew TV was only TV because my parents taught me as much. Don't blame these artists. And to take that a bit further, hip hop was actually pretty positive in its early less pop culture days but it didn't become big to the mainstream until it went into a more negative direction. Then suddenly rebelling teenagers from the 'burbs found it useful as a tool to scare/annoy/alarm their parents and suddenly rap\hip hop is driving pop culture. As far as a gangsta culture, the mob was pretty fond of Frank Sinatra.....does that make Frank Sinatra 'gangsta music'. John Wayne never acted in a movie that didn't involve a gun, is he gangsta? Are cowboys gangsta because technically they invented the drive by? Catch my drift?

Lastly, who determines what is dressing properly. Just because you don't like the way it looks doesn't make it improper. I can't stand boat shoes that people wear. Doesn't mean it's improper.

And lastly (again ;)), comments to the wrong person could get you killed in years in the 80's just as quick as they could nowadays. As I mentioned before, the largest demographic buying hip hop cd's is not black people or black teens, it is the teenage white kids in the suburbs.

The Mildly Annoyed Canadian said...

Good comments Xavier - you have a great style. I don't think that we disagree to strongly - I wasn't suggesting that HipHop culture was determined by gangs - only that they seem to promote that lifestyle today.

I think both the Rap and HipHop scene are filled with many talented folks and I enjoy many of these artists' work - my dismay was projected at the negative message they seem to be communicating.

I also understand that this is not a new phenomenon - pop culture has influenced youth for decades - I just wish that they would understand the impact they have and act responsibly (I have just as big a problem with slasher movies).

I should also clarify my position on the dress - it's not the baggy look that bothers me, it's the association with the gang culture. I also agree that it's not just black youth - in my building I see kids from all races and religions dressing like this.

Lastly, you are right that these comments could easily have gotten you shot in the 80's as today - it's unfortunately a sad commentary on our society.

Send me a link to your blog - I'd enjoy reading your thoughts.

Angie said...

I'm not bothered so much by the ridiculous way they wear their clothes as I am that they are "wannabes". Are their parents not teaching them to be individuals? With their own way of doing things? And not merely sheep to follow others?

(shrugs)

Jade said...

Amen!

nameless said...

Good to know these things can be seen in Canada too! ;-)

Johnnie Walker said...

To compare Frank Sinatra's mob ties and John Wayne's portrayal of gun slinging to today's violent hip hop lyrics is, well, pretty ridiculous. First of all, Sinatra never sang about doing drive bys, slapping bitches and selling drugs. I'm not a big fan of John Wayne; however, the roles he played were always that of the hero, and the use of violence always served some sort of greater good. (The depiction of this "greater good" is easily debatable.) To say that this comes even close to the senseless of most of today's hip hop lyrics is sophomoric at best.

Having said all that, I do agree that the contents of hip hop lyrics weren't even an issue until white kids started pointing their pistols at each other, and gang acitivity wasn't a concern until these same kids from the suburbs started giving themselves gang-like monikers.

SnowShovel13 said...

Ever heard Frank Sinatra sing "Mac the Knife"? It's an upbeat little tune about a guy who happily stabs and slits people. Oops, sorry -- you're right -- the song's not about drive-bys. Must be less serious.